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Message started by Theo the Venlonaar on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:25am

Title: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:25am
Today I worked on my vette for the first time. The right rail of the driverseat was broken, about 4 inches behind the front bolt, I welded it. I also found out that I only need this bracket thing to keep the doorlock on it's place. See pic red arrow:


About the powersteering, her you can see where its leaking:


Is there a repairkit for this?

Today we had sunny weather and my son thought it was necessary to clean the car ;D

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Artsvettes on Jan 28th, 2012 at 11:56am
Theo
That horseshoe clip will retain the door lock cylinder. Take a look it maybe laying inside the door.
  The powersteering slave cylinder will leak in colder weather and especially if they are not used often. You can get a kit to replace the seal and rebuild it. Providing the piston is not rust pitted, and still has it's nice chrome finish. It is inportant not to nick the piston when removing the seal. If it is worn past the chrome you will have to replace whole cylinder. Good luck finding a good one if you do................jack

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Redwingvette on Jan 28th, 2012 at 4:24pm
That is one of the reasons I replaced the whole thing with a Borgeson steering system. No more valve or cylinder leaks for me.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565523/1973-chevrolet-corvette/page-14

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Jan 29th, 2012 at 6:19am
Hi brian,

where did you get this Borgeson steering system? What does it cost? On the dutch forum somebody wrote me he has a used powersteering shipped with many other parts from the States. I don't know when he gets it.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Redwingvette on Jan 29th, 2012 at 7:21am
http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/product.php?productid=1655&cat=97&page=1


Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Jan 30th, 2012 at 6:14am
I bought the rebuild kit for mine and it turned out great. I also rebuilt the control valve and it seems to all work better, Just be sure and read the instructions on balancing the system. Took me several tries before it would work right. Someone had put new hoses on mine so the ends were in good shape. I also used teflon tape and made sure everything was clean and dry when I re-assembled everything.

And thanks for the door lock drawing. I had problems with one not unlocking and is would have been nice to have this then.

Good Luck,
Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Jan 30th, 2012 at 7:40am

Theo the Venlonaar wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:25am:
my son thought it was necessary to clean the car

Theo, great to see your son taking a hand in keeping it clean.  Things learned early in life stay with kids forever. ;)

Good luck on fixing your PS leak.

Dale 

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:13pm
I removed the slave cylinder for rebuild. Got a rebuildkit for 20 euro and gonna try the make it work again (non leaking) ::)

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Artsvettes on Feb 9th, 2012 at 2:41pm
Just make sure you get the hose orientation right........jack

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by wnmech on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:48pm
Jack
I was a victim of hooking up those 2 short hoses the wrong way.  It is definately an attention getter when you try to move the steering wheel in either direction.
Rick

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:28am
That's what mine looked like theo before I rebuild it. I too had my hoses reversed. Hope you labeled them. One crosses over the other and you would think it's upper to upper and lower to lower but it's not. Here's what mine looks like after the rebuild:



Also, you can get some great step by step instructions at www.cssbinc.com
http://www.cssbinc.com/1963-82powersteeringcylinderrebuildkit.aspx
http://www.cssbinc.com/images/ads/howto/Instructions_Power_Steering_Cylinder_for_1963.pdf


Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Feb 10th, 2012 at 10:17am
I left one hose to the cylinder, I can't go wrong with them no more.

About your link Charlie, I already found it today.
But I don't know what to do with some parts:

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Feb 10th, 2012 at 10:53am
Neither of those parts are internal Theo. The sleeve fits inside the 2 rubber bushings and the nut looking thing is just to be used as a lock nut in the event you don't have a hole for the cotter pin and castlenut. Mine didn't either so you tighten the big nut, then put the skinny one on behind it and snug it up to keep the other from backing out. Careful if you used an air nozzle to clean it out. That rod comes out pretty fast if you blow air thru one of the holes. let me know if you have any problems at all. I recently did mine and it's all somewhat fresh in my mind still. You can email me at charlie@corvettec3.com if you need to.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Feb 10th, 2012 at 11:01am
thnx Charlie, I was quick on this one, I'm ready with the rebuild. Yes, I used air and it went well. But now I know what the sleeve is for, thanks for the info.
I'll sent you an email, also check your spambox just in case, I've a weird emailadress ;D

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Feb 16th, 2012 at 9:44am
finished the slave cylinder, but the control valve also needs attention, so I ordered a rebuild kit for it to.

Wow,  the sparkplugs are hard to replace. Everything is in the way. Before I make my first ride, I'll be a pro fixing vettes :D

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Feb 16th, 2012 at 11:46am
I had problems getting the pivot pin out on mine. the inside was all burred up. Finally got it. Mine was filthy. Since you're doing both, you will have to balance it for sure. be sure and read the directions carefully. when you first start it and barely touch the steering wheel, it throw you out of the seat if you're not careful. You'll see. Took me a few tries as I'm sure I had air in the lines. Use the instructions at CSSBINC. it was very helpful.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 1:54pm
Good thing my GF didn't see this, rebuilding the control valve on the dinnertable [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Knotacare on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:06pm
Always a dangerous situation, I did a VW engine once long ago & got caught. Never heard the end ;D
Alan [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:31pm

Theo the Venlonaar wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 1:54pm:
Good thing my GF didn't see this, rebuilding the control valve on the dinnertable [smiley=evil.gif]

Good way to end up without GF if not real careful, Theo. ;D ;D

Dale

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 2:35pm
looks very familiar. Luckily I had an old 1.5 gallon icecream container to put it all in and I have it a real good bath with parts cleaner.

Charlis

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 5th, 2012 at 3:40am
[smiley=angry.gif] Godverdomme kutzooi!!
This weekend I wanted to mount the powersteering stuff, but I couldn't mount the slave cylindre. The crown nut used to mount to the steering rod is fuc.ed up. In the whole area there is no shop who sell these nuts. That's the dark side of the corvette, it's all about non metric measures.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Knotacare on Mar 5th, 2012 at 5:13am
It's the American way :)
Alan [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 5th, 2012 at 5:32am
Theo, that really SUCKS!!!  Guess it comes with the territory of having a U.S. car (especially a Corvette) in a foreign country. :(  Hope you are able to fix the problem. ;)

Dale 

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:16am
That's the problem with working on things that haven been touched in a while. You always tend to damage or break something. I never mentioned that on mine the rod kept turning so I had to cut the nut off to remove it. Luckily, Ace hardward carries pretty much all sizes in grade 8 so that was just a 15min drive.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 5th, 2012 at 10:52am
The nut was damaged during removal slave cylindre some weeks ago. I called a vette supplier here in the Netherlands, he will sent me a good used one for free :) So, tomorrow or wednesday I can move on.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 5th, 2012 at 11:04am
Theo, that's awesome news.  Sometimes GOOD things do happen to GOOD people. ;)  Glad it didn't turn into a nightmare for you.

Dale

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 5th, 2012 at 11:43am
Dale, I won't allow one stupid nut to cause a nightmare [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 5th, 2012 at 1:11pm
what about the nut that's working on the car  :P

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 5th, 2012 at 11:19pm
That nut is going nuts

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:10am

Theo the Venlonaar wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 11:19pm:
That nut is going nuts

[smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
That's what these old classic cars are meant to do.

Dale

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:04am
I hear ya. Over the weekend when I pulled the cover off my car, it got hung on a crack in the front bumper and it pulled a huge chunk of it off. a good 3in by 8in strip. I tried this rubber bumper repair kit I had to mend it back and decided to bondo the damn thing flat and cover the entire top with blue duct tape. looks ok from 8-10ft away but up close it's bubba'd to the max. Was just fixin to buy heads, carb and a new cam too. Now I'm not too sure.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:11am
that sucks, I got stuck with my trousers on the stingray decal on the left fender. My trousers is teared apart and now I only have sting on the fender, ray is gone. But that happened some while ago.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:50pm
I know you were pissed off about that. Just the way it goes.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 7th, 2012 at 3:18am
well, this nut received a nut in a nutcase today. Now can this nutty nut go on installing the nut.
Nuthing will stand in my way.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 7th, 2012 at 5:42am
Good attitude, Theo. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Dale

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 7th, 2012 at 6:14am
I always hit the threads with a wire wheel before I re-assemble. especially something old and encapsulated like the pitman arm. I use loc-tite and anti-sieze as much as possible too.

Glad you got it in Theo.
Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 8th, 2012 at 3:26am
the nut was perfect, now it's time to change some rubber bushings of the rear suspension

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by blue 77 on Mar 8th, 2012 at 5:22am
Progress.  Feels good.  Right, Theo?

Dale

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 8th, 2012 at 6:21am
What are you looking at now Theo, strut bushings? Mine were so bad that the tires started tilting on the top. was going to order some but my quick fix worked so well, I forgot I still need them. Took mine off and went to home depot and bought a 6in piece of black rubber dishwasher hose, trimmed it and fit inside the strut and I was amazed at how well it fit. probably going to be a pain to get it out like the stock stuff but I'll go to polly when I get around to it.

So have you balanced the valve and got it back on the road yet?

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:57am
Yes Dale, feels good. Today I struggled with the strut rod bushings. Must have been the original since 1973, hell what a job to get them loose...  I also am replacing the spring rubbers. Then I'll mount the steenless steel parking brake set with new shoes.
I let the engine run today and drove the car a few meters/yards (don't have a dutch title yet, can't go on the road for a testdrive)  I balanced the valve with the front wheels jacked up. This only took 1 minute or so...  I'll find out if it's done right as soon I hit the road one of these days.

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by TX 73 stock on Mar 8th, 2012 at 12:02pm
Theo,

as long as you can turn the wheel all the way each way with the car on the ground and it doesn't fight you then you're probably OK. However, if it starts pulling to the right or the left while driving, I'd check the valve adjustment before I took it to the alignment shop.

I've had my car almost 2 years and never got around to changing the title over. really plan on doing it next week though. Tired of looking in my rearview for cops all the time. Need to do it to get out of the other guys name too. I'l probably be pissed if it was the other way around.

Charlie

Title: Re: powersteering leak
Post by Theo the Venlonaar on Mar 8th, 2012 at 1:45pm
With dutch title I mean the licenseplate (number) and the paperwork that comes with it. It doesn't have a dutch registration yet. I'll get it as soon  as the car is roadworthy. ( I drove 2 times to the DMV allready with a special 1 day lisence, and 1 time to a garage with a special garage lisence plate and of ofcourse a few illigal tours, haha)

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