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Project '64 (Read 992 times)
Aug 4th, 2016 at 3:24am

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Kim's Boss owns an 1964 riverside red white vinyl interior 4 wheel drum (power) brakes convertible 327/300 horse 2 speed powerglide transmission a fairly moderate optioned car for it's day, he had the car shipped 3 years ago to his son Dan in California who is USMC stationed at Miramar MCAS (Marine Corp Air Station) at San Diego anyway, Dan is being deployed so Joe had the car shipped back east and he shipped it to me I've done some work on the car about 20 years ago so, it arrived on Tuesday evening and he was there with me as they unloaded from the open air flatbed carrier needless to say, after 3500 miles and weather (this time of year) the Corvette was not looking too happy yesterday I went over the car initially after a thorough cleaning of the road grime and interior the car had been in storage the past 6 months while Dan was in training, it's going to need a complete interior carpets are shot seat covers torn door panels barely hanging on, I fixed a couple of small things yesterday the vent window crank was just laying on the floor needed a "c" clip, the glove box door was missing the Corvette script which was in the glove box I applied some adhesive lined up the guide pins and attached the script to the door, the Driver's window does not lower or raise and here's the most interesting part, it (glass) was just sitting on top of the regulator upper track in the groove and the groove for the vent window how this piece of glass made it across the country without falling out is anybody's guess. I'm going to remove the door panel and check the condition of the regulator and tracks/rollers (thinking it may need a new one here) the convertible top is in decent shape as I had replaced that for Joe about 8 years ago however while in storage a mouse made a small about 1/16" hole behind one of the bows, I need to research and see if the canvas can be patched or if he is looking at another top, and after vacation I will raise the car up on the "quick jack" lift and pull all four wheels, Dan said it is loosing Brake fluid so I'm going to check each wheel cylinder for condition, as the custodial keeper I can see a shake down run and numerous test drives in the near future it's good to get turning a wrench on a Corvette after all these years and It's something I do enjoy plus I'm keeping a log of hours worked, parts purchased, labor time ect. ect. so this is like a part time job (even if it's really a hobby) getting paid to play--my kind of job!
...........................Chris Smiley
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Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2016 at 4:38am

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Good luck & have fun Cool
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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2016 at 12:04pm

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WHAT?
No pictures??

LOL!

Have fun Chris! What a kick in the pants!!

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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2016 at 4:12pm

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WOW! Enjoy and post some pics.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:52pm

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got her fired up (after we returned from vacation) ran pretty rough but, I suspect that is from sitting so long the fuel tank is low and probably never received a stabilizer additive, I took it around the block (after topping of the transmission) it ran pretty good shifted smooth but the tires are shot! squirrely would be one way to describe the handling so, that's on the list now as well. I am documenting every minute spent going over and fixing things on this car, Joe told me at one time while in California Dan was offered 50K for the car, given it's current state and list of things needed, I'd say he was foolish for not taking the offer. anyway, I have custody of the car for now and I will give it my best shot at making it safe to drive, it's too far gone to ever make a show piece or be a NCRS "top flight"
contender, it is a "survivor" class at this point and the lack of proper care over the past few years is evident, more to follow.
.................Chris Smiley   
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Reply #5 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 9:10pm

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the more I go over the car the more things wrong appear, this car has not been taken care of at all, depressing to see what was a decent driver deteriorate into a project car but that is what we have here I can't/don't want to go too deep into tearing things apart rather, I'm going to try to undo the years of neglect to get it back in good enough shape to enjoy. Kim's Boss (Joe) had expressed other ideas but I told him he would sink 100K into a car that at best would only be worth 45 so, he is mulling that over I've already put out a few dollars of my own getting the car running I'm stopping here until he makes up his mind, in the meanwhile, the car needs tires needs to be titled and registered so it's legal to drive, I have to pull the wheels and inspect the brakes but again, I'm not going to be "free" labor so for now, I'm sitting on a car taking up garage space hoping this lack of progress will inspire the wife to talk to him and see what his plans truly are. I went over the car, gave him a complete breakdown on things needed (didn't touch the chassis or drivetrain......yet) and he has not responded. I've told Alan how I feel about this guy, so Alan knows I owe this guy no loyalty (as my wife seems to think she does) he has in the past used and abused our patience and good nature and you know what they say about a leopard and his spots so, if the car sits, it sits!
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Reply #6 - Sep 13th, 2016 at 4:16am

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Get the money in the bank first before you do anything in fact I would have a few thousand buffer at all times. Factor in your labor too. Cool
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Reply #7 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 10:52am

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Sad that a beautiful car is not loved as it could be!

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Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2016 at 9:12pm

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well, he paid for and I got the tires from Tire rack had them shipped to my house a local gas station charged 81.00 for mounting, balancing and disposing of the old tires so it's got new shoes but it needs brakes, no dash or tail lights work, driver's window regulator works but you have to manipulate the widow to get full travel looks like a broken guide track from what I can see without pulling the door panel. it has to get inspected and I'm just going to take it to the garage and let them go over the car fail it and give me a list of what it needs and I can pass that information on to the owner like I said the car was not cared for while in California and he should have taken the offer of 50K! so again my assessment of he could easily sink 100K into this car is not too far fetched!
......................Chris  Smiley 
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Reply #9 - Oct 4th, 2016 at 4:39am

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You think he would be interested in a disc break conversion kit?  Sure would make a better driver & much safer car.
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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 4:02am

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Alan, well if I owned this particular car, given what it is (survivor)I would make it NCRS (NOT CORRECTLY RESTORED STINGRAY) and do just that for the value of the car roughly 35-40K an outlay of 4-5K for complete 4 wheel disc brakes would certainly make it a better driver! all I can do is make suggestions!
......................Chris  Smiley
 
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Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2016 at 8:41pm

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took the car for a safety inspection and to get a sticker so it would be totally legal to drive as I was afraid, the car failed miserably due to sooo many suspension bushing issues, both upper and lower control arms, 3 of the 4 ball joints, tie rods, rear trailing arm (left side) both rear strut rods, the fuel pump gasket is blown and there is a leak and he said there was a leak in the gas tank I don't think so as the car is parked IN the garage and we have no fumes or stains on the concrete- in this case what I think happened is I filled the car up and some probably sloshed around and bled out through the cap, probably just the filler neck gasket, the shop's total was just over 3K everything, I could probably do it for half that amount but I'd buy 4 ball joints (might as well since it's apart) and address both trailing arms. I gave the owner the run down and what it needs so, it's up to him if he wants me to do it, it'll take sometime as I have yet to see him put out any $$$ (other than the tires) and, everything looks to be original which means some of these rubber bushings are 52 years old!!! I just wonder sometimes how people let a car like this get this bad! I'm sure there's more to follow and, this doesn't address the window regulator or/and the interior. like they always say, if you want to play, you've got to pay!
.......................Chris  Smiley
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Reply #12 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:20am

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hard to believe my last post on this was October 6th and here we are almost in February and the car is unchanged, it still needs a complete repair of the front and rear suspensions, a new interior and some work on the left driver's window track and Passenger's vent window. I don't know what the car's owner wants to do or expects from me (not that I can do much after the surgery) but, I'm not putting any more into it time, Money, or effort until he has some working capital for me to draw on. I have taken it for some runs around the neighborhood to keep things rolling but that's it.
................Chris  Smiley
p.s. wondering if I should tack on storage fees as he is tying up my garage???
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:02am

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Look up the local storage fees in your area, send him a letter informing him that storage fees will commence starting Fed 1, 2017 & you expect payment monthly and mention late fees.  If you're wondering about this ask your mortgage co if they would mind if you lived in your home for free. Remember Chris business is business & don't get it confused with friendship.
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Reply #14 - May 7th, 2017 at 11:57pm

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I'm done trying to get involved with this car Alan you're right Business IS Business after the pace-maker Kim and I decided to just let Joe get the car repaired at a shop of his choice, so, I took it for yet another estimate this guy is dangerous!!! now, he's just going to register it as an antique and get an antique license plate so he can drive it, he's at least 8 years removed from the last time he drove it as it was shipped to his youngest son out in California and he never took proper care of it and had it in storage for the past year, long story short, it needs (desperately needs) complete rebuild of front and rear suspensions and despite me and two other shops telling the owner this he still can't wrap his head around the fact the things wear out, to him, the car was NEVER driven enough (in the past ten years) to deteriorate so bad--ahh, but it has so, I'm done he wants to drive it fine drive it and when it breaks a trailing arm, or tie rod end, or the rear leaf spring, strut rod (take your pick) and it needs to be towed he will most certainly not be towing it back to me! I just hope he doesn't kill someone (or himself) driving this thing! but, some people have to learn the hard way I guess..............
...................Chris  Angry
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